Comments on: Grounding Issues in a Computer – My PC is Shorting Out http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/pc-building/grounding-issues-problems-computer-case/ PC Troubleshooting and Diagnostic Information Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:58:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Patrick http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/pc-building/grounding-issues-problems-computer-case/comment-page-1/#comment-8685 Patrick Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:06:42 +0000 http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/?p=86#comment-8685 Good afternoon, I am putting together my first build, but it won't startup, I push the power button and it seems like its coming on, but when I remove my finger from the power button, the computer turns off. Could this be my computer grounding out? Good afternoon,

I am putting together my first build, but it won’t startup, I push the power button and it seems like its coming on, but when I remove my finger from the power button, the computer turns off. Could this be my computer grounding out?

]]> By: shadow021 http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/pc-building/grounding-issues-problems-computer-case/comment-page-1/#comment-6097 shadow021 Wed, 07 Dec 2011 13:05:03 +0000 http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/?p=86#comment-6097 my pc atuo turn off after 10 seconds. the cpu temp is only 20 c so i dont think its cpu. any ideas? my pc atuo turn off after 10 seconds.
the cpu temp is only 20 c so i dont think its cpu.
any ideas?

]]> By: RoganJosh_NI http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/pc-building/grounding-issues-problems-computer-case/comment-page-1/#comment-5847 RoganJosh_NI Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:49:30 +0000 http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/?p=86#comment-5847 I have been having similar sudden shutdowns, which grew in frequency the last few days - I was beginning to think I had some malware - a chance comment from my wife made me check the mouse cable of my G9 gaming mouse - I knew it had been getting trapped on my sliding keyboard shelf bracket and hgave it a closer look - it had been worn down to the bale, and as I had been moving the mouse while playing games, it had shorted out against the bracket cuasing the pc to shut down instantly and only restart after hte short had been cleared. Odd, but true - as a temp solution, I covered up the bare cable with some duct tape - that should last until I get a replacement g9x. Hope someone else finds this useful - but obviously rule it out if you're using a wireless mouse. Thanks RoganJosh_NI I have been having similar sudden shutdowns, which grew in frequency the last few days – I was beginning to think I had some malware – a chance comment from my wife made me check the mouse cable of my G9 gaming mouse – I knew it had been getting trapped on my sliding keyboard shelf bracket and hgave it a closer look – it had been worn down to the bale, and as I had been moving the mouse while playing games, it had shorted out against the bracket cuasing the pc to shut down instantly and only restart after hte short had been cleared.

Odd, but true – as a temp solution, I covered up the bare cable with some duct tape – that should last until I get a replacement g9x.

Hope someone else finds this useful – but obviously rule it out if you’re using a wireless mouse.

Thanks

RoganJosh_NI

]]> By: Kevin http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/pc-building/grounding-issues-problems-computer-case/comment-page-1/#comment-2187 Kevin Mon, 21 Nov 2011 21:01:52 +0000 http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/?p=86#comment-2187 Hey Admin, Thanks for the reply. I tried everything listed in the article, removed the I/O plat, removed the motherboard, checked all the standoffs and wiring. Everything ran smoothly for the first 48 hours or so, then poof, same problem again. PC dies for no apparent reason. I'm left with 2 options, throwing the damn thing in a swimming pool or seeking professional help! Any other advice would be greatly appreciated, or any other creative ways to make my PC blow up so I can move on. Hey Admin,

Thanks for the reply. I tried everything listed in the article, removed the I/O plat, removed the motherboard, checked all the standoffs and wiring. Everything ran smoothly for the first 48 hours or so, then poof, same problem again. PC dies for no apparent reason. I’m left with 2 options, throwing the damn thing in a swimming pool or seeking professional help! Any other advice would be greatly appreciated, or any other creative ways to make my PC blow up so I can move on.

]]> By: boris http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/pc-building/grounding-issues-problems-computer-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1352 boris Sat, 12 Nov 2011 00:45:40 +0000 http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/?p=86#comment-1352 Hi! My pc reboots when I plug in a USB in some of 6 ports on the rear. It also happens when I plug it out, or just push left-right some of the plugged in USBs. It can also happen when I touch back metal plate around the ports with the metal of unplugged USB device. But it doesn't happen every time so it's hard to diagnose is it any specific port. Sometimes PC doesn't reboot but only disables some or all USB ports (so keyboard and mouse become unresponsive). Any ideas? Is problem in the grounding of the back metal plate? Is it possible tat the shortage happens in one of the plugged USB devices (mouse, printer, keyboard..)? Thanks! Hi!
My pc reboots when I plug in a USB in some of 6 ports on the rear. It also happens when I plug it out, or just push left-right some of the plugged in USBs. It can also happen when I touch back metal plate around the ports with the metal of unplugged USB device. But it doesn’t happen every time so it’s hard to diagnose is it any specific port. Sometimes PC doesn’t reboot but only disables some or all USB ports (so keyboard and mouse become unresponsive). Any ideas? Is problem in the grounding of the back metal plate? Is it possible tat the shortage happens in one of the plugged USB devices (mouse, printer, keyboard..)? Thanks!

]]> By: admin http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/pc-building/grounding-issues-problems-computer-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1336 admin Tue, 08 Nov 2011 16:07:36 +0000 http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/?p=86#comment-1336 Hi Kevin, aside from ensuring the rear I/O plate is secure and making sure your front wiring is correct and not frayed you may want to consider removing the motherboard combo and checking for any other potential issues with standoffs or things behind the motherboard if this is a system you assembled yourself. Hi Kevin, aside from ensuring the rear I/O plate is secure and making sure your front wiring is correct and not frayed you may want to consider removing the motherboard combo and checking for any other potential issues with standoffs or things behind the motherboard if this is a system you assembled yourself.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/pc-building/grounding-issues-problems-computer-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1329 Kevin Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:37:20 +0000 http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/?p=86#comment-1329 That is the exact same tower as mine and I'm experiencing intermitten shut downs. I've tried everything and I believe it's a shorting issue but I can't detect where!!! Driving me NUTS. Any additional advice is welcomed That is the exact same tower as mine and I’m experiencing intermitten shut downs. I’ve tried everything and I believe it’s a shorting issue but I can’t detect where!!! Driving me NUTS. Any additional advice is welcomed

]]> By: NSX http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/pc-building/grounding-issues-problems-computer-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1289 NSX Tue, 11 Oct 2011 10:25:23 +0000 http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/?p=86#comment-1289 Hi admin Thanks your answer. Unfortunately I still have random bluesreens. And I don't really find where is the problem. For this reason I try to check things like the grounding. Last time when my computer was freeze (blue screen), I heard approx five seconds before a windows notification sound like ejecting USB hardware. So I think some hw going to offline, maybe the ssd drive itself where is the system files located. After a bluescreen I always must to power of the computer, otherwise the bios can't see the SSD Drive. Do you have any idea? Is it can be a grounding problem(?) or I should to investigate the drivers? (I already tried to download all of the new drivers what I found, bios update too) I always got this screen: http://nsx.hu/upload/mybluescreen.jpg when I looking up in google, the 0x000000F4 is typically storage problems. I tried to use another sata hub on my motherboard, but the blue screen was the same: The only difference: bios don't loose the ssd drive after reset. So I running ot of ideas, Sometimes 5 days long I have no problems and sometimes everyday.. The funniest thing: 99% I got the bluesceens in the windows, not when I playing... I have guarantee for every hw, but I should to know which one the bad (if its a hw problem)... If you have some idea, Let me know.. I will waiting for your answer. Greets: Karoly Hi admin

Thanks your answer. Unfortunately I still have random bluesreens. And I don’t really find where is the problem. For this reason I try to check things like the grounding. Last time when my computer was freeze (blue screen), I heard approx five seconds before a windows notification sound like ejecting USB hardware. So I think some hw going to offline, maybe the ssd drive itself where is the system files located. After a bluescreen I always must to power of the computer, otherwise the bios can’t see the SSD Drive. Do you have any idea? Is it can be a grounding problem(?) or I should to investigate the drivers? (I already tried to download all of the new drivers what I found, bios update too) I always got this screen: http://nsx.hu/upload/mybluescreen.jpg when I looking up in google, the 0x000000F4 is typically storage problems. I tried to use another sata hub on my motherboard, but the blue screen was the same: The only difference: bios don’t loose the ssd drive after reset. So I running ot of ideas, Sometimes 5 days long I have no problems and sometimes everyday.. The funniest thing: 99% I got the bluesceens in the windows, not when I playing… I have guarantee for every hw, but I should to know which one the bad (if its a hw problem)…

If you have some idea, Let me know.. I will waiting for your answer.
Greets: Karoly

]]> By: admin http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/pc-building/grounding-issues-problems-computer-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1287 admin Mon, 10 Oct 2011 15:35:30 +0000 http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/?p=86#comment-1287 Hi Karoly, in response to your question about the standoffs either plastic or metal should be fine. The only real difference I have found is that the plastic standoffs can sometimes bend or break if you ship a system somewhere. It is mainly personal preference and what type of hardware pack you have available to you. The I/O plate is one thing I would take a closer look at. Because of all the rear connections on the motherboard this plate is responsible for a lot of grounding and POST issues with systems if it comes loose and is making contact with the board. Many times you can adjust it with the board still in the system. I recommend using a flat head screw driver to push the plate from the inside of the system to try and get it to snap back in place if you know it is loose. There is usually a ridge on the inside of the plate you can stick the flathead into to help prevent the screw driver from slipping and cutting a trace on your board. As always use controlled force to avoid potentially poking the motherboard with the screw driver. Hi Karoly, in response to your question about the standoffs either plastic or metal should be fine. The only real difference I have found is that the plastic standoffs can sometimes bend or break if you ship a system somewhere. It is mainly personal preference and what type of hardware pack you have available to you. The I/O plate is one thing I would take a closer look at. Because of all the rear connections on the motherboard this plate is responsible for a lot of grounding and POST issues with systems if it comes loose and is making contact with the board. Many times you can adjust it with the board still in the system. I recommend using a flat head screw driver to push the plate from the inside of the system to try and get it to snap back in place if you know it is loose. There is usually a ridge on the inside of the plate you can stick the flathead into to help prevent the screw driver from slipping and cutting a trace on your board. As always use controlled force to avoid potentially poking the motherboard with the screw driver.

]]> By: NSX http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/pc-building/grounding-issues-problems-computer-case/comment-page-1/#comment-1277 NSX Sun, 02 Oct 2011 09:22:43 +0000 http://www.computer-how-to-guide.com/?p=86#comment-1277 I Have a same problem, My pc case shocks me. But I realized my connector socket have no grounding in the room where I use the computer.... I took a long and thick cable, I cut the isolation from the two end of the cable. I screwed under a screw one of the end of the cable to my case. other end of the cable is connected to my radiator on the wall.. (The painted surface not good, you have to find a point where is no paint.) We can use Plastic tape to fix it. Make sure is connected firmly both of end of the cable (under the screw, on the radiator). For me its solved the problems. My case not shocks me anymore, but we have to notice it is not the most correct way to grounding, temporary can be good. Dear Admin I'd like to ask you about Metal vs. Plastic Standoffs. When I screwed in my motherboard I used plastic pads at EVERY hole between the screws and motherboard. Is it can be problem? Maybe my motherboard have no grounding now?.. I'm also sure I have some trouble with my IO Panel too, but I was not caring with it, because stands firmly in the opening of the case. Just seems a few millimeter bigger than the opening. so one of the end of the IO panel is not fit in the opening.. What do you think about the situation, do I have to modify something? Thanks your answer in advance. And sorry for my poor English:) Greets: Karoly I Have a same problem, My pc case shocks me. But I realized my connector socket have no grounding in the room where I use the computer….

I took a long and thick cable, I cut the isolation from the two end of the cable.

I screwed under a screw one of the end of the cable to my case. other end of the cable is connected to my radiator on the wall.. (The painted surface not good, you have to find a point where is no paint.)

We can use Plastic tape to fix it. Make sure is connected firmly both of end of the cable (under the screw, on the radiator).

For me its solved the problems. My case not shocks me anymore, but we have to notice it is not the most correct way to grounding, temporary can be good.

Dear Admin
I’d like to ask you about Metal vs. Plastic Standoffs.

When I screwed in my motherboard I used plastic pads at EVERY hole between the screws and motherboard. Is it can be problem? Maybe my motherboard have no grounding now?.. I’m also sure I have some trouble with my IO Panel too, but I was not caring with it, because stands firmly in the opening of the case. Just seems a few millimeter bigger than the opening. so one of the end of the IO panel is not fit in the opening..

What do you think about the situation, do I have to modify something? Thanks your answer in advance. And sorry for my poor English:)

Greets: Karoly

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